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Mike Murphy is, among other things, the leading integral theorist of his generation; the cofounder of Esalen Institute, epicenter of the human potential movement; and a pioneer, with George Leonard, of Integral Transformative Practice.
In this fast-paced and demanding dialogue, Mike and Ken discuss the nature of the supermind: its meanings, why it has not appeared previously in history on any sort of widespread scale, and why glimmers of its emergence are starting to happen now, today.
Standard warning: These dialogues are warm, witty, loving, and vibrant. They are not, however, for the intellectually faint of heart.
The dialogue opens with a discussion of "Toward a Comprehensive Theory of Subtle Energies," one of Ken's recent essays. It moves to the necessity of an integral methodological pluralism to get at occasions such as the supermind; focuses on why you can have an experience of the One and yet not have an experience of the supermind; and derives a plausible theory to account for this (namely, the complexity of the manifest realm had to reach a certain evolutionary threshold before supermind could manifest easily). It concludes with the nature, radiance, and extraordinary transformative power of the supermind itself....
A word on the sound quality, which is poor. These conversations were spontaneously captured by a very crude set-up: a speakerphone and a small digital recorder. The wonder is that they are as clear as they are; you won't have any trouble hearing the discussion. But we apologize for the rough quality, replete with squeaks and blips—it was this or nothing, but we think it's definitely worth it.
Part 2 of this dialogue ("Evolution beyond Enlightenment") airs in the near future. |
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transmission time: 35 minutes |
Esalen Institute, The Future of the Body, metanormal, supernormal, "Toward a Comprehensive Theory of Subtle Energies," shunyata (Emptiness), Ochemata (J. Poortman’s Vehicles of Consciousness), hylic (material) pluralism, flatland, Upanishads, nirguna Brahman, saguna Brahman, Kosmos trilogy, gross, subtle, causal, turiya (Atman), turiyatita (nondual, union of Emptiness and Form), one taste, sahaj (another term for turiyatita), satchitananda (the being-consciousness-bliss of the nondual), Plotinus, Aurobindo, nous, Haridas Chaudhuri, Occam’s razor, nirvikalpa samadhi (formless absorption), shamans, Sri Ramana Maharshi, The Life Divine, siddhis, charisms, adornments, Shankara, makyo (illusion), moksha (enlightenment freedom), AQAL (see "What Is Integral?"), koshas (sheaths or levels of consciousness), Madhyamaka (the Emptiness school of Buddhism, founded by Nagarjuna), the further reaches of embodiment, post-metaphysics, Sex, Ecology, Spirituality.
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most memorable moment: “The divinization of the body is not a sideshow but what Spirit intends. The unfoldment of Divinity in all our parts is the emerging limbs and organs of our emerging supernature. God is waking up....”
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