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Beyond Genre. Part 2. Adventures in Rock and Romance.
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Rick Rubin
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Rick Rubin has long been regarded by the most astute minds in the music business as an oracle in forecasting what's to come. Never having met a musical boundary he wasn't inclined to break, this genre-busting audiophile practically invented rap-rock and has produced artists as diverse as The Beastie Boys, Nine Inch Nails, and Neil Diamond.
Twenty years after establishing a name for himself, Rick is one of the most sought after producers in the industry, and he's still not afraid of taking chances. What would happen if instead of working with young, new, or relatively unknown artists he decided to produce a "great," and a "grown-up great" at that? Well, what did happen is his extensive collaboration with the late, legendary Johnny Cash, and in this dialogue, Rick shares with Ken the significance of this now famous partnership.
By no means has Rick opted to now limit himself to "grown-up greats," and he offers a report on the status of some other major projects in his pipeline. Acting again as producer for new albums by both Audioslave and System of a Down, Rick and Ken remark over the inexplicable phenomenon of the latter, commenting on the beauty of System's success given the fact that they defy—or more accurately, transcend and include—just about all known categories. (Inexplicable, that is, until Rick points out that more than liking any particular genre, most people simply like things that are really good.)
Rick once said, "There’s nothing better than telling the truth. It's really about falling in love." This statement bears special significance as here the dialogue shifts from rock to romance. Is Rick currently in love? Is Ken? With Ken waxing poetic about the wonders of "hormones, love, and Eros going on in all four quadrants," it leads one to wonder.
Whatever the case, Ken addresses the nature of his romantic relationships, both past and present, relating the story of the transformative relationship he shared with his late wife, Treya. Together, Rick and Ken extol the wonders of romantic love, while flirting with the topic of fatherhood and what such a thing would mean to their work and intimate relationships. Does Mother Nature pull a fast one on fathers? Is it really possible that men would choose to have children instead of total dedication to a deeply satisfying career? Is it really possible to love your child a hundred times more than your beloved dog? And is all that goofy stuff about romantic love actually true?
We invite you to turn the radio down and kick back and enjoy as the producer and the pandit muse upon these all-important issues....
| Did you know you can burn an audio CD of this dialogue and listen to it in your car or anywhere using a standard CD player, or—an increasingly popular move—listen on your iPod. Too cool! |
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transmission time: 30 minutes |
Johnny Cash, Unearthed, Neil Diamond, The Red Hot Chili Peppers, Audioslave, System of a Down, Toxicity, The Beatles, Rubber Soul, Revolver II, Paul McCartney, romantic relationships, Eros, fatherhood, Treya Killam Wilber, Grace And Grit, "What Is Integral?," A Theory of Everything.
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most memorable moment: "You don't really know what you're going to feel like [being a father] until that kid is placed in your arms, and you start drooling, slobbering, and sobbing. But I'm not sure I want to get to that point!" |
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